Welcome to the International House Turku podcast, your guide to living, working and studying

in Turku

We are your hosts, Jonathan Murphy

And Rosa Pamukkainen

Hello

Hi

So, this week, we're talking about finding a job in Turku area

We will share our experiences of job hunting and try to provide some insights about the

labour market in Finland, in the Finnish labour market, yes

And then later in the show, we'll be speaking to a recruitment expert to hear her top tips

for international job seekers

Sounds great

Let's begin

Let's go

So, Rosa, when we started the Soft Landing Service, all those many years ago, feels like

a long time ago

But when we started the Soft Landing Service, it was designed to cover all aspects of life

in Finland

But I would say that one issue in particular is by far the most common, which is how to

find a job as an international

Would you agree?

Yes

Very true

This is a very, the kind of weighing topic that comes over all the time

And besides dealing with multiple clients, we also have our own experience of hunting

for a job, looking for it

So this is definitely something that we could share our perspective

Sure

And just kind of before, I have a couple of questions about your own experiences of job

hunting

But to kind of set the scene, like I find that job hunting is quite a tricky subject

to broach because, you know, as much as we are kind of like promoting Turku as a great

place to live and to work and to study, I guess we have to kind of deal with the reality

which is that at the moment, the Finnish labour market is, to say it mildly, quite challenging

And that's the case for all job seekers, but especially internationals, I would argue

Very true

And when you check the numbers, they are not as welcoming, isn't it?

No, it's true

And I was just checking the latest EU statistics just before we went on air

And currently, Finland has an unemployment rate of 8.3%, which is significantly higher

than the EU average, which I think is 5.9

So Finland is in a little bit of a tough spot at the moment

Right

When you look at those numbers and those percentages, it feels like not so welcoming place

But for the sake of fairness, let's also mention that when these statistics are made and considered

you have to really look into it kind of like from a deeper perspective

That is what I want to say, that also according to the statistics, for example, those people

who are considered of a working age within the international background people, they

are higher

What I mean, people in Finland who are considered to be of working age are 20 to 64

So the locals, the Finnish people, they have a lower percentage

There's only 55% of Finnish working able, like working age people compared to the internationals

who are over 70

That might be one reason when we come across this kind of statistics that say that the

unemployment rate of the internationals is higher than of those local ones

So this might be also one reason

So don't get discouraged if you constantly see this kind of numbers

And also, actually, according to the migration office, those internationals who are coming

to work in Finland, most of them actually move either to the Helsinki metropolitan area

or to the southwest Finland area

So yeah, it seems like that we do have some work to offer in the area, which is really

good

And I think it's really important to kind of break down those kind of headlines

Like you said, you know, often when you have the statistics, there is a deeper story behind

those numbers and they can be presented in different ways

So what is your story?

Well, it's funny, again, I was trying to think back to my days as a job seeker

I think I mentioned on the podcast earlier that I moved to Finland as a spouse

So my wife had a job in Finland, but I did not

I was working in the UK and then I took a career break and found myself in Finland

And I was trying to think back and the biggest sort of shock, let's say, culture shock, was

my kind of mentality

And I'm not sure if this is an international thing or maybe more of a British thing, but

I kind of assumed that with my skill set and my experience, that I would be able to find

a job in my field quite quickly

I was very young and optimistic about my prospects

Aren't we all?

You know, I remember I think I'd been in Finland for just a handful of weeks and then a job

came up at an organisation very similar to what I was doing back home in the UK

And I thought, well, OK, this is great

I've had a career break now, like five or six weeks, and I've got to know Finland and

I'll apply for this job and then I'll just start working here

Like, what's the big deal?

And of course, I applied to that job and I did not hear back

I didn't even get a rejection

I didn't even get a thanks for sending your application

I just didn't hear anything until I saw on LinkedIn that they'd hired somaeone else in

that role

And that was the first moment where I was like, ah, OK, maybe the situation here is

a little bit more challenging than I first thought

Yeah, that sounds very familiar, unfortunately

And I'm not sure if back then you were familiar with the wording with the term ghosting, but

it seems to be very popular not only in the social media, but also when you're sending

the application. So I also have a lot of clients who are saying that, hey, I have sent this

many applications and I've never heard back

But I feel that sometimes, like I said, unfortunately, that might be the case

But also what you mentioned when we move here, because the story is somewhat similar with

me as well. I moved here as a spouse and then my second status was unemployed

My official status, two official statuses

And like you say, you expect that with your background, with your experience, you would

find something easily

But that was not the case with me also, because in the local market, you might need to

offer more. And by this, I don't mean that you have to work harder for the same job

But what I mean is that the profile might be slightly different in Finland compared to

where you come from, because particularly my example is that my profession is a teacher

of English as a second language

And I thought that, oh, I'm going to apply to all the English teacher positions in

Finland. But then I was either being ghosted or not getting any replies or getting

those. Unfortunately, we went with another applicant and I was somewhat upset

But then I started noticing this pattern that the person that they chose was going to

teach not only English, but also Swedish or some other language

So that made me think that, oh, OK, so I have to kind of upgrade my profile or look at

it from a different perspective

Yeah, that's a really good point

And I think, you know, often it's only natural to take those kind of rejection emails

or the ghosting, as you put it, kind of personally

And you just think, OK, what's wrong with me?

Like, you know, I was the perfect candidate for this job and no one reached out or they

went with somaeone else. Like, what is it to do with me?

And then, as you mentioned, when you dig that little bit deeper, you find that, OK, well

the other candidates in this situation had something that you didn't have and that you

didn't even know that you didn't have until you looked into it

And I guess mine was the same. Like, we talk a lot in our sessions about the value of

networking. I'm sure that's something that we will discuss throughout this episode

But, you know, Finland is a very small place and Turku is an incredibly small place

And if you are approaching companies kind of without any, you know, former contact or

connection or, you know, they don't know who you are, then it does make it very

difficult. And that was my situation

I'd been in the country for like two months and I just applied randomly without calling

them or meeting them or any kind of, you know, they just must have seen this random CV

from a British person and thought, well, OK, but we know personally a bunch of candidates

who are maybe more or equally as qualified

So they were probably the ones they moved forward with rather than me

But, of course, I didn't know that at the time

Yeah, but it's great that they did not take you back then because then we wouldn't have

a Jonathan Murphy at International House Turku

Well, that's very kind

But, yeah, I think this is kind of all linked to, you know, I was trying to think of getting

advice for job seekers, which we could talk about this for six hours, which no one would

be interested in that. But the biggest thing, based on my own experiences, was this idea

of going out of your comfort zone

Absolutely

So I had a career back home

I found a job in Finland that matched that career and I didn't get it

I didn't get anywhere near that job

And then it was that time when I decided, OK, well, I need to kind of slightly either

expand my parametres for the job search, like thinking about it less in terms of my kind

of role or career and more in terms of my skills

What kind of skill set do I have back home that could be used in different types of

fields? I'm not sure if maybe you've also kind of had this this realisation maybe in

your job search

Absolutely. Yeah. Again, it sounds very familiar

And also another thing is that while you're taking that step back, maybe you can also

use the time to improve your Finnish language skills, because whether the job is only in

English or any other language, in any case, you are going to need that Finnish

So if you are partaking a part time job or freelancing or whatever, if you cannot find a

full time job, it's a good idea to use the rest like rest of the time learning Finnish

language or acquiring some other skills that may come handy while you're doing your job

search

Definitely. And of course, if anyone is thinking about how do they start their Finnish

journey, well, listen to episode three of the podcast where we have some great tips for

getting started. And yeah, I always you know, people do ask a lot about like how much

Finnish you need to know to get a job

And I think the answer is, you know, there's no how long is a piece of string

There's no direct answer

But what is always true is that Finnish language, any level of Finnish language is always

an asset. I think when you're trying to find a job in Finland, you know, even as somaeone

who who kind of does a lot of my work in English, you know, I've still had to go through

interview processes in Finnish, even though the job at the end of that process was kind of

mostly in English

So you need that language skills to kind of get you through the door to make connections

Yeah. And also in a lot of cases, a lot of the official paperwork at the workplace is in

Finnish. For example, my contract was in Finnish, so I had to at least understand what are

the conditions and so on

So it's it's definitely helpful to know Finnish

Definitely. And, you know, I think one of the things that many internationals also have to

deal with is, I think you mentioned it just before, of kind of stepping backwards

So I was somaeone who, you know, I identified in terms of my career and the prospect of

taking a step backwards in my career, either for a lower salary or even for, heaven forbid, an

internship, an internship at age 28, you know, whereas in my UK, British culture, an

internship is something you do when you are like 16, 17

And then I was faced with the prospect of applying to internships

But, you know, by by taking that step backwards and opening myself up to other opportunities

and thinking, well, this isn't what I want to do forever, but it's a step towards a career in

Finland. It's something on my CV

It's a way to meet people

Then, you know, that I use that as like a platform in order to to kind of build my career

here step by step

Yes, very true. I know a lot of internationals, including also myself, that had to do an

internship. But that's a good chance, like you said, to step into the labour market, get

employers to get to know you and then maybe get that job

But we've been sharing about our perspectives

But other than that, also, of course, there are the public sector or that kind of services

that can help you in this job hunting process

So, for example, one public service offered from the city for job seekers is City of

Turku's työpiste, this office where they are helping with maybe going through your

CV. Generally, let's say, let's put it in a nutshell, like job searching

Yes. Help, let's say

How would you describe actually työpiste?

Yeah, I think that's exactly right

Like there are a space where at the time of recording you do not need to make an

appointment to visit the työpiste office

You can go there kind of more or less five days a week and speak to one of their

advisors. For example, you could get feedback on your CV

They could put you in touch with recruitment events where you can have face to face time

with different companies

We will link to the työpiste website in the episode description, but don't be alarmed

if there isn't a huge amount on that website in English yet

A lot of it might be in Finnish

But the bottom line is that their opening hours are free to use for everybody

And there are the staff members that do speak English, so they will help

And if you cannot make any sense out of the web page, then also International House

Turku advisors can help you or give you more information about the työpiste

So feel free also to ask

Definitely. And I think also our Welcome to Turku programmeme, we organise visits

So you can actually go as part of a group to työpiste if you are kind of worried about

going there and maybe somaeone not speaking English

Then you can join our Welcome to Turku programmeme and go as part of a group

And they are not situated too far away from Monitori either

They're very close in downtown Turku

So it's easy to find

Definitely. So to find out kind of more about this service and speak to their staff

members, of course, we do what we always do on these podcasts

And we sent our roving reporter, Daniel, to visit työpiste and

speak to some of our colleagues there

So let's hear from her

Hello, my name is Veronika Redin and I'm working

at työpiste integration services team

And hello, my name is Sahar-Arjen Lehtinen and also working in the

same team with Veronika

And today we would like to tell you about how you can find

a job here in Finland

So we would like to share with you some tips, advice, strategies

So let's start

There are several, many main channels where job seekers can look for

job opportunities

For example, there are platforms like Työmarkkinatori

Duunitori, Oikotie, Jobs in Finland

And these are, I think, most popular job

boards here in Finland

So these platforms are great for browsing open positions and

are especially useful if you want a clear idea of

what's available in your field

Another option is to look into staffing agencies

Many companies collabourate with recruitment agencies to hire temporary

or even long-term employees

And I think that these agencies can sometimes be a quicker

road to employment and are worth exploring

And of course, there are hidden job market here in Finland

So not all jobs are advertised online

Instead, some companies prefer to hire through their internal referrals

or on connections and through direct applications

This means that reaching out to companies directly

even if there is no job listed on their website, can sometimes

lead to opportunities

And of course, making personal connections with companies or representatives

of companies hiring, so it can be very effective in order to get a job

And of course, we cannot forget the role of social media in Finland

So, for example, a platform like Inkadin and even Instagramme

are very powerful tools

So having a visible professional profile, especially

on Inkadin, can help recruiters to find you

So being active on these platforms can make you visible in the job market

in a unique way

And also what I would like to add to what Veronika already said is

maybe one way how you can find a job

is the network

So what kind of network you have

It's a very also powerful tool here in Finland

And maybe for our internationals and newcomers

maybe it's very hard because they don't have a network yet

But I would say how you could build a network for yourself

is maybe through a training programmeme

So, for example, if you are attending a course, different kind of training

programmemes, that's the way to get to know new people, get to know some new

industries or employers, also doing like a work trial

internship. It's a very good way also to build a network for yourself

get to know some people, even though it might not lead

to a job immediately and it's unpaid, but still

definitely it's a way to get to know some people

And maybe later on it will be very helpful and useful for you

Another way is maybe doing a volunteering job

So voluntary jobs also a very good way to, first of all

will gain some experience, maybe gain some Finnish language

but get to know people

So knowing a lot of people from maybe your own industry, your own field

but why not from other fields as well can be very useful later on

And then union trades is also very important

of course, for those who are working at the moment

And usually every industry has their own union trades

But these union trades sometimes organise different kind of recruiting

events or, for example, webinars

So that's also a very good way to, for example

attend these events and just to get to know the companies

just to get to know the field, what kind of companies are out there

and what is the like the work culture in these companies and industry

And finally, remember to stay positive and believe in yourself

So with good strategy and self-belief, you will succeed



and believe in yourself

So with good strategy and self-belief

you will succeed on your way

to finding the right job opportunity

Yes, and I would like to say that don't give up

and please don't leave Finland

We need your knowledge and skills here

A big thank you there, as always, to Daniel for his report

as well as everyone else who participated

To continue the discussion

we are delighted to welcome this week's guest

to the podcast

Yes, a very warm welcome to Kirsi Laine

recruitment consultant at BPM Henkilöstöpalvelut

How are you doing?

I'm very well, thank you

And thank you for having me here

It was great to hear from you

And of course, this is a familiar place to me

because I've worked before for Turku City

And yes, everything is good

It's a cold day today

It's true, but welcome back

So this is kind of interesting

because we were talking about this kind of like

public sector perspective, private sector perspective

So you were in the public sector

and now you've crossed the divide

You left us for bigger and brighter things

But how did you find that transition?

Well, it's only been like less than two months

that I've been now working as an entrepreneur

It's a first experience in this field

but a little bit about the background

So educational background

So I have a master of science

in international business and marketing

actually from Turku School of Economics

And I've worked basically my career

with market research, web analytics

working for a consultant

for many kinds of like big international companies

such as Nokia, NSN, what else?

Well, big brands like Arla, Valio

So that was basically like a consultant field

I worked pretty long in media agencies

actually two biggest ones globally

but based in Helsinki in Finland

And then I was there leading the insight team

then I was a part of the management board as well

And there was a need to have more forces to HR

because the company was growing vastly

We were 40 when I started there and 100 when I left

So then basically without previous experience

I jumped to the HR because I'm a very empathetic person

I want people to feel well when they are working

so like a working environment is very important

I was basically doing well working as an HR director

in that company for nearly five years

I recruited many, many people

especially in the digital field

And of course the company is quite international

So I think that 20 or 25% of the employees were non-Finnish

And the CEO actually was from Denmark

Which itself was English, which was pretty

And well, it was a very good experience

I spent 15 years in Helsinki

and then I moved back to Turku like three years ago

And then I was thinking, okay, what do I want to do next?

Basically wanted to come back to my home city

and then made some consultant projects to Helsinki

but then basically travelling there a couple of days a week

wasn't really convenient in that way

Roughly, well, last year in October

I started working for Turku City, so Työpiste

I was working for the enterprise unit

So basically working a lot for finding people

like finding jobs for our people

And roughly two months ago

then I started to go on my own

and now working a little bit on a different side

challenges as we all have here in Turku

So this work is something that I really want to do

and want to see that people get employed

and find their route where to go next

That sounds really great

And I think by now our listeners

are especially interested in what you have said

having worked in an international company

the digital field

So we do have a lot of internationals

who are particularly aiming for that kind of position

And since you have all this experience

could you a little bit maybe open up

what is the current job market?

What is the perspective

the chances of internationals getting hired

especially if we consider the Southwest Finland area?

Of course, as we know

there are challenges at the moment in the employment field

but then again, what I've said also

to people who are seeking for jobs

I think that it's

of course, it goes down to them

like how active people are in what they are gonna pursue

So we know that there are challenges in employment field

yes, but then again, I could then give some tips

like how to go forward with the recruitment process

So if I mentioned just a couple of things now

that come to my mind based on my own experiences

when you are applying

so of course, you need to be really interested

in that specific position

So don't just apply for jobs that are not good for you

It is very important you actually focus on that position

find out about the company, find out about the job

what is required, if they're really mentioning

in the document that they are looking for

specific things or some like

you have to have like a certain driver's licence

or you need to have like hygiene pass or something else

So then just, they are very important for the company

and you need to be interested

and willing to take that position

Then the importance of CV and the motivation letter

So they are very important

and basically about the CV

So if you haven't done it before

it's really worthwhile to spend time with that

that it looks good

Canva is very good free tool

that you can actually make it good looking

and like appealing in that sense

so that they actually see that you have spent time

with updating that

Of course, the basic information

the education, job experiences, language skills

IT skills, those passes, if you have mentioned those

but it would be good that if you don't have very

wide job experience that it would fit to one A4

that it's not like a booklet

Sure, I was about to ask

because we see many CVs with our clients

in the national house

and some of them are, let's say multiple pages long

And would you say they're kind of one A4 or two A4

would be the standard?

Yeah, I would recommend that

all the single details

what you've been doing in a certain position

but basically like the title and the main things

that it would be like two or three sentences

or something like that

that it's basically in a nutshell

that you see very fast that

okay, what this person has been doing

And then the other one was probably

I would say that it's a motivational or cover letter

how do you name it?

But it is also important to add that

Quite often that is voluntary to put it

but then again, I would recommend it

because that's something

where you actually put it to the flesh

like who you are and certainly like why you are applying

to this specific job

So one good tip is to take actually

from the job advertisement

just like some notes that if they are looking

for energetic team player, blah, blah, blah

So kind of like, you don't need to copy that

something that it's highlighting

what is your personality

why especially you would be suitable for that specific job

So it doesn't work in that way

that you have the same motivation letter

and you put it to every single place

So you need to spend time with that

So it's actually bringing the point of view

of the company as well

So why you would fit to that company culture

Right

Yeah

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense

And I think that's also what we sometimes advise

to our clients that you can have that kind

of one motivation letter fits all

So you can have one generic one that you send to all

but it's good to personalise it with every company

Exactly, yeah

And unfortunately I have to admit

that job seeking takes a lot of time

And if you have a bad day that you see that, okay

today I'm not really motivated to do that thing

So it's good to postpone it a little bit

because the excitement can be seen

in the motivational letter

and kind of let that spend time with that

If you want to have it double checked with somaeone

and of course you probably

and then Rekrypuusti is also a good place to go

if you want to kind of just get additional support

And also the IT, if you need help with something

that you need help just with the IT and with the computer

That kind of help is also available for free

Okay, that's good to know

I think one quick thing that our clients

are often very interested in is in your experience

when you were involved with the HR processes

kind of how, if you had a stack of CVs to look through

kind of roughly how long would you spend with each CV?

I guess there's those stereotypes

that you have like 30 seconds or two minutes

but I mean, in your experience

how were you able to read through everything

and what were the skills that that job needed, I suppose?

It depends, of course, a little bit

Like if you have a hundred or 200

well, I didn't really have that thing

because it was very specialist roles

that I was basically headhunting a lot of people as well

But I said, well, usually I start with the CV

So basically those things that like

if I have a certain position

and then I take a look at those specific skills

and then if they are okay, so then the letter

And kind of there you can actually see the personality

And of course the cultural fit is sometimes very important

It depends on the role, but the company culture

for example, if you're looking for people

like with a certain team

so then you of course think also

that how this person might fit

working with those colleagues as well

But basically I spent more than 30 seconds

Well, that's good to hear

It is time consuming

And of course it's a process as well

from a company's point of view

every recruitment is crucial

There's of course like sometimes chance

that it could go wrong

Not all recruitment goes like as planned

and it might be on either side

But the company needs to invest time for those

But I've heard that sometimes there's been like

just recently, just heard about one position

that there were like more than 700 applications

So of course then you need to think

that is AI needed for this?

Kind of screening process

Yeah

Another question actually that we also get quite often

from our clients is that

is it okay to call the recruiter

after they have sent their CV?

What do you think?

I say that yes

Okay

Yes

I think it is good way to show that you are active

And sometimes I've even said that go and visit a place

if it's like a restaurant or some kind of that

that it's open

Of course it's not good to go to some office space

if you haven't booked an appointment

but it's sometimes good to just go there

and show that you're active

So I think it's good

And maybe one point still that I forgot to mention

about this recruitment thing is the language

So of course we all know that Finnish

is very tricky language

But then again, it's at least that I could advise

that learn the language

I know that there are courses

but also one other thing that I would recommend

is that you have a hobby

you get a hobby where there are Finns as well

Like networking is super important

You never know who you meet

Practice your Finnish

It's always, it's actually a good way to learn Finnish

just spending time with the local ones

So it's recommended

We know that this is a difficult language

but then again, it's useful

Maybe one more just question before we let you go

You mentioned that the language is important

and writing the CV

but let's say if the person does not yet have

good Finnish skills

and you said that you can always get help from somaeone

Do you think it's okay to ask somebody with a language?

Or do you think sometimes our clients say

that they feel like it's cheating

if they do not have the Finnish skills

but their CV looks good and edited in Finnish

Is that important?

Do you pay attention to the language when it's in Finnish?

I think that this has like pros and cons

Okay

Yeah, it's, there are cases that I have like

perfectly written CV in Finnish

And then if I call

and then the language is not on that same level

it's, I understand why people do it

Basically it's good

but then you need to be prepared

for having the call in Finnish

And then at least explain that

can we keep this now in English

that it's more convenient

But then again, it's, yeah

I don't have a specific answer to that one

It's tricky

Yeah, definitely

Like being honest is of course important

That's a good point

If the company really expects you to speak fluent Finnish

and then you don't

so it might be a stop for that process

Sure, and I think it's getting more common

in the use of kind of AI services as well

Yes, exactly

A lot of clients accept that they don't speak Finnish

but then they just translate their CV

I mean, their CV says in Finnish

I do not speak Finnish

And I think they're thinking it's more kind of easier

to read for recruitment side

but of course it can kind of create these misunderstandings

or false expectations perhaps on your part

Yeah, it does

Yeah, yeah

Of course, AI is bringing a lot of new things

for new recruitments as well

A lot of possibilities and challenges

Yeah, harder to stand out perhaps in this kind of

you know, I guess so many job seekers

just kind of have their basis for their CV AI generated

and then you end up with a lot of very similar

looking CVs perhaps

Again, I'm saying that put your persona to the cover letter

so that you can actually bring just like

because usually CVs look pretty much the same

It's like just points of, you know

education, work experience

It's not really that you can bring something exciting

in that, but bring yourself in the letter

And it's up to the person whether you want to put a picture

or photo to that or not

Very valuable points

Yeah, especially kind of recruitment insight

just like briefly we did an event recently

where an entrepreneur was sharing her story

and she said that when she was a job seeker

she would just send CVs to anywhere and everywhere

But then of course, when she was self-employed

and then she went to recruit herself

and then saw that of 200 applications

170 were not relevant whatsoever

And she was like, oh, this is what I was doing

kind of before that

So maybe again, it's great to get your perspective

because I think as a job seeker

as difficult as it sounds

you can put yourself in the shoes of a recruiter

and think, okay, if I was recruiting

for something in my organisation

what would I be looking for?

And of course, one of the things would be

this kind of relevance of those set of skills

So it's a good thing to keep in mind

Yes

Thank you very much, Kirsi

Thank you

For agreeing to come to our interview

And like I said, you brought very valuable points

for our listeners to consider

Definitely

And perhaps people can contact you via LinkedIn

Perhaps we can show your details

Okay

Yes

And yeah, you're welcome back

to the City of Turku's space anytime

Thank you

Thank you

So, okay, Rosa, another episode

We're coming towards the end

Another episode

What have we learned today?

Yes

So we talked about employment

very important point for all the internationals

no matter your status, why you have moved here

And another relevant point

even though if you come here to work

you still think about it

because that's a reason to stay in Finland

So it's always good to keep your CV updated

to work on your networks, we discovered

because even though you do have the skills

even though you have the professional background

if you do not have networks

it feels like you're really missing

something big in the picture

Sure

And I think hopefully our listeners can keep in mind

that if they do receive a rejection on the day

they're listening to this episode

they don't take it so personally

We've all been there

Statistically, most job applications will end in rejection

but you need that resilience

You need to keep going

especially as Kisi mentioned

this dark Finnish winter now

it's a difficult time to job seek

So, you know, do kind of stay connected

with friends, with peers

and with us here at International House Tour

Yes

And of course, because there are so many events

that are particularly aimed at recruitment

fairs, networking events

You check those and participate

Speaking of events

do we have any upcoming events?

Yeah, I think we have a few bits and pieces

Of course, depending on when you are listening

to this episode

the best thing you can do

is to check our social media channels

or our website's events page

But at the time of recording

there is a Rekru Expo job fair

happening at the Turku Fair Hall

on the 20th of November

We would also have one of our

international coffee mornings

with an entrepreneurship twist

which will be the last Friday of this month

29th of November as well

Am I missing anything?

Do you have anything else to add?

We have upcoming, not as soon maybe

but you can start checking

maybe our social media for that

But in February also

we will have our own job fair

So that's a good one to look out for

And definitely if you keep on checking the platforms

there are here and there some kind of events

You talked about Tuopiste

they also have meeting the company

that kind of traffit or dates maybe with the companies

So it's good to check for those

Yeah, and again

we'll link to the places you can find out

about all those events in our episode description

But looking ahead

I have the sad news, Rosa

to break it to you

that actually next episode will be the last

in the current season

of the International Hours Turku podcast

We've come so far

we've talked about so many things

entrepreneurship, language

being a newcomer in Turku

And next week for the final episode

we are planning to do a bit of a roundup

maybe some reflexions on what we have learned

And for that

you the listener

we need your help

Yes

So we are looking out for your questions, comments

anything that you have to say

bring out topics that we will then answer

Yes, we will do our best for our Q&A

And if we do not receive any

via our social media or email addresses

we will find you at our events

and we will get those questions from you

so we can discuss them

in the final round of the series

But until then

thanks to everyone who participated in this episode

Thanks to Daniel

Thanks to Kirsi

Thanks to Marku, our producer, as always

Yes, thanks to everyone

Enjoy your October

maybe rainy or maybe cold November weather

And until next time

Okay, see you next time

Bye-bye

Bye

Bye-bye